I have been receiving quite a number of inquiries regarding IMGs practicing as specialists here in Canada. I’ll try to answer this question based on the information I’ve researched on the web AND experience of my friends here in Canada.
To reduce the length of this post, I have included numerous links to necessary websites and information you can read in more detail.
Before I go on, there are some important points you need you to know first.
- To practice here, you need to be a permanent resident or citizen.
- You need a provincial license to practice your specialty in whatever province you settle in.
- All specialists will usually eventually have a College of Family Physicians of Canada/CCFP certificate (for family physicians) or Royal College Certificate (for all other specialties).
- Based on the country you obtained your specialty certificate, there are two classifications:
- Approved-jurisdiction. These approved jurisdiction certificates are from 29 international jurisdictions that the Royal College has assessed and deemed to have met Royal College standards. They are from South Africa, Singapore, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, United Kingdom and Ireland.
- Others/Non-approved jurisdiction routes.
Graduates from the U.S are not considered international medical graduates. They are matched similarly to Canadian Medical Graduates.
NATIONAL LICENSING THROUGH THE ROYAL COLLEGE CERTIFICATION EXAMINATIONS
There are 3 pathways to get the Royal College Certificate:
1) Approved-jurisdiction route is for international medical graduates who have completed specialty training outside of Canada or the United States in any of the approved jurisdictions that I mentioned.
2) The Practice Eligibility Route for specialists for other internationally trained physicians. The deadline for every year is the April before the year you want to practice. So, for example, you want to start practicing 2020, the deadline for application is April 2019. After they approve your application, you will then sit for the Royal College Exam in your specialty. To be eligible, you need to have been in practice for a minimum of 5 years (2 of which must be in Canada). Please read more HERE.
3) Practice Readiness Assessment Route
Each province has its Practice Readiness Assessment procedure and not every province performs an assessment for IMG specialists.
If you want more information specific to GPs or Family Physicians, I have written a post outlining the steps. Click HERE to read it.
PROVINCIAL LICENSING THROUGH THE PRACTICE READINESS ASSESSMENT ROUTE
To obtain a provincial license, you need to do your province’s Practice Readiness Assessment. I will now talk briefly about each province’s procedure.
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- Quebec. There are two routes: The Clinician – Practice Ready Assessment route(Restrictive permit) and the Arrangement de reconnaissance mutuelle (ARM) Québec-France – Practice Ready Assessment route (PRA). Please visit their websites for more details HERE and HERE.
- Ontario. This province only takes IMGs from approved jurisdictions (listed above) or doctors trained via residency in the U.S or Canada. If you receive your Royal College Certificate or CCFP certificate from another province, I believe that they will also accept you.
- Alberta. Conducts assessments for both family medicine specialists and other specialists but you need to:
– be currently practicing or at least have practiced in the last 3 years prior to your application,
– have passed your IELTS,
– have your LMCC Certificate [have passed your QE1 and QE2] or in the process of working towards it. Please read THIS for more details.
– apply to them to assess your qualifications.
Depending on their assessment, they can put you on either the general register or provisional register. I believe the general register means you can work without supervision. The provisional register means you need to have an Alberta Health Services ‘sponsor’ to work with for a period of 6 months, after which they will decide whether to assess you or give you a full license. Getting a sponsor is not always very easy as I have heard of specialists unable to get anyone to sponsor them. Not to discourage you as everyone’s situation is different though!
For more information on the pathway to independent practice in Alberta, please click HERE and HERE. - Manitoba. You will need to fulfill certain criteria including a pass mark on your MCC exams and have above 7 in IELTS, etc. Please read THIS GUIDE for more information on these criteria. When you are given a conditional registration, you can then apply for The Practice Ready Assessment (PRA) – Specialty Practice Program, and you will be granted a position only when you have an approved sponsor and a job offer in a specialty which is regarded to be in high need in Manitoba. Please read THIS for more information. When you complete the PRA-Specialty Practice program, you will be expected to fulfill their return-of-service obligations per sponsorship agreement. In addition, you are expected to complete a one-year mandatory Mentorship Program through the IMG Program. For General Practitioners or Family Medicine physicians, please read THIS and THIS.
- British Columbia and, Saskatchewan. These provinces only conduct Practice Ready Assessments for family medicine specialists. If you want to work as a specialist in these provinces, you would need to be assessed in another province and get your Royal College there before moving there.
- Newfoundland and Labrador: Their assessment process seems very reasonable but spaces are limited. Please click HERE.
The following provinces/territories do not have Practice Ready Assessments. If you want to practice there, you can earn your certification in another province and then move there.
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- New Brunswick. Please read THIS.
- Yukon. To practice in this territory, you need to have a current full license in another Province or Territory of Canada that is a party to the Agreement on Internal Trade, your LMCC, and a certificate or fellowship from any of the following bodies: the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada or The Collège des médecins du Québec (on or after October 16, 2007), or the College of Family Physicians of Canada. Please read more HERE. Download the Yukon pathway to recognition HERE.
- Nunavut. Contracts are only being offered at present to family physicians with full, unrestricted registration in other Canadian jurisdictions and those who are active members of the College of Family Physicians of Canada. Preference is given to family physicians holding the CCFP designation. Please read more HERE.
- Northwest Territories. Please read THIS
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Prince Edward Island. They do not offer any assessments but they do give contracts to doctors. It is not clear on their website the steps involved. You will have to get in touch for further information. Please visit the website of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Prince Edward Island HERE. HealthJobsPEI also has some information HERE.
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I have done my best to create an algorithm illustrating the process for specialists to practice in Canada. I hope this helps simplify things for y’all!
Can you please enlighten regarding a Jurisdiction approved route for specialist? Do we still need QE1 and QE2?
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Hi. I don’t believe you will need to write any of those exams again if you have already passed the required specialist exams in your training program. “For graduates of these jurisdictions, the Royal College will assess their training to determine whether they have successfully met the Royal College training requirements. If the training is deemed comparable and acceptable, the international medical graduates are ruled eligible to take the Royal College certification exam. Success at the certification exam leads to Royal College certification.” I got this last statement from this page http://www.royalcollege.ca/rcsite/credentials-exams/exam-eligibility/assessment-imgs/approved-jurisdiction-route-international-medical-graduates-e
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Hello Dr Fomski, I would be very grateful if you can shed more light on the approved jurisdiction pathway.
I am a permanent resident but immediately moved to the UK for my Family medicine residency after getting my PR .
I have 7 months to complete my residency and I am not sure if taking the MCCQE1 alone is sufficient or if its better to take the QE2 as well .
I am really keen to get back soonest so I don’t lose my PR .
Thank you for your response in advance.
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I apologize for the delayed response. If you still have questions, please send me an email at internationalphysiciantraining@gmail.com
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‘ The royal college will assess the training to determine whether these specialist have met the royal college training requirement.
my question is the assessment an in person assessment or assessment of documents?
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Assessment of your documents
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Hello, thank you for your post I have been following it recently to try to figure out how to move our lives forward.
I have a question and I will try to keep it brief: my wife is an anesthesiologist from Iraq, with 10 years of practice and 5 years as head of department, she is fluent in English (Uni of Baghdad is taught in English), but she hasn’t been in practice in almost 8 years living in the USA (she just got her citizenship here). What pathway might be available to her to work in Canada in your experience?
Thank you!
David
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Hello! I just saw this message in my spam box. Since your wife has been out of practice for the last 5 years, she will need to get back into practice for at least 3 months to obtain her ‘recency of practice’. She can then qualify for the ‘Practice readiness program for specialists’ based on her experience and recency of practice. At the moment, only two provinces assess specialists in this way: Manitoba and Alberta.
For Manitoba http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/health_sciences/medicine/education/imgp/specialistassessment.html
For Alberta http://www.cpsa.ca/registration/apply-for-independent-practice/
A third option is to practice as a clinical assistant in Alberta https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/medstaff/page7094.aspx
Thank you!
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Thank you for your reply doctor! (the comment thing seems to be acting a bit odd..)
Would her redoing her residency after passing the MCCQE Step 1 be an option? She is perfectly willing to do this but I’m wondering how competitive the CaRMS system is (the residency program in the US is brutal for IMGs), and then where does that leave us?
More specifically, how if at all could this lead to her being able to practice in BC? (Also, looks like there is some serious need for Anesthetists in BC, is there any possibility of locating an employer in need of her and short cutting some of this in some way?)
I know that is kind of a laundry list of questions, but I very deeply appreciate any help you can provide!
-David
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Hi David, redoing her residency is also another option. I didn’t want to bring this up initially because I didn’t think she would be willing to do that. However, it is extremely competitive and I dare say equally as or slightly more ‘brutal’ than the US system for IMGs.
To the best of my knowledge, employers only hire doctors who are licensed to practice in Canada. If she completes her residency OR does the practice readiness program and gets a license from another province and gets her Royal College Certificate, she can practice in another province, BC for instance.
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Hello Dr. Fomski,
in reply to your last response (it won’t let me reply directly for some reason). I looked into the residency program in Canada, and from what I can tell you are correct that it is quite the ordeal. For anyone following this, and correct me if I am wrong here, it looks like:
CaRMS (residency program) is highly competitive, to the point that even Canadian graduates are having some trouble getting residency placements. I’ve seen the placement rate for IMGs as low as ~20% (not 100% sure I believe this number having looked at their data, I think they are averaging the first and second iterations, and I’m not sure that is an accurate way to do that..)
Then it looks like her residency for Anesthesiology would be 4 years with a return of service meaning she would have to repay the salary that she was given for those 4 years before being able to practice elsewhere. (I may be confused about how this is organized)
So it looks like the Practice Ready Assessment is the way to go. And I know this may be an unfair question because it is oddly specific to her situation, but being that she has been out of practice for 8~ years and her country of origin (Iraq) is unsafe for return (especially with 2 children who do not speak Arabic and an American husband) where might she able to get into practice? (and practice that would count for ‘recency of practice’?)
Again, I appreciate that this is a difficult question and very sincerely thank you for the help you have thus far provided and any answers you can give me!
-David
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Wow! I can see you have done a lot of research on this and you understand the realities of the situation many IMGs face here in Canada!
I would advise her to try the UK. She will however have to do PLAB 1 & 2 exams but they are not very difficult from what I hear. Other options would be South Africa, Singapore and Hong Kong but I am not very familiar with the process of getting into medical practice in these countries.
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Also, should she still plan on taking the MCCQE Step 1? They phased out the MCCEE, but most of the provinces have not updated their websites with new requirements….
(Looking at both Manitoba and Alberta, they list a pass on the MCCEE as a requirement for the PRA. So, I’m guessing that the Step 1 will be what they want…?
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Yes she should still take it. The results do not expire, I believe. Since the MCCEE is still being taken up until November this year, most programs will still request it for this year and possibly early to mid next year.
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Sorry it doesn’t let you edit your comment. I don’t know why! Yes, from next year, it’ll be QE Part 1 that they require
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One more option is Australia. They have their own exams too but accept the Canadian, UK or US licensing exams i.e MCC, USMLE, and PLAB. However, I’m also not sure about if they would accept someone who has been out of practice for such a long time.
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From what I am seeing on their website the MCCEE last session was in Nov last year.
https://mcc.ca/examinations/mccee/
And thank you for the compliment about me knowing a lot about the status of IMGs in Canada. I’m afraid that I am only learning the extent to which it is bad for IMGs there just now but the situation for IMGs in the US is pretty bad as well. I have been looking into this a little obsessively for the last 4 years.. That said, the situation for most IMGs with regard to any country is really pretty opaque from the outset, meaning it is really unclear what is expected or what it will take and it seems like it could be really easy to come to the US or CA with high expectations that the systems here are reasonable or fair only to spend years fighting to no avail.
And with a shortage of GPs in both countries it is really rather shocking that neither government has made moves to make these processes easier.. of course if there were an internationally recognized medical licensing body it would help (rather than just the ECFMG which is rather piecemeal.)
If anyone is interested my experience with medical licensing in the US for IMGs is this (this is off of the top of my head and of course somewhat anecdotal so…):
Need to take USMLE step 1, 2, & 3
The USMLE step 1 is typically taken by medical students in the US in the second year of med school and is not primarily medicine based, it includes physics, chemistry, biology, calculus, psych, etc. Our system here typically requires a 4 years degree to get into med school with some hard science prerequisites but any 4 year degree will do to get into med school so the test goes over basic science to ensure students have that background.
Given that, this test is pretty highly inappropriate to give to a trained medical doctor. There is no reason to assume that 5-10 years out of post doc into a medical career that any doctor would have any of this fresh enough in their mind to be tested on it nor is it relevant in any way to their ability to practice medicine. (As my wife put it ~ ” I don’t need to know HOW the chemistry of the drug works, I need to know the dosage, what it treats, when to give it, what it interacts with, etc”~)
MLE Step 2 & 3 is medicine based, one is a (multiple choice?) test and the other is clinical. The issue here is that there are only 6-10 sites in the US where this clinical part of the test can be taken and it is over the course of a week (I think?) so you need travel money and lodging.
Then lastly, the IMG still has to get into a residency. The placement rate for this is about %40 and it depends on your specialty and the further away from your date of graduation it gets harder and harder to place. (Additionally it is going to be harder to place if you don’t have references from American medical professionals or a medical school). They do reserve some spots in these residencies for IMGs but the programs are not required to and some don’t at all, and IMGs are in direct competition with American medical students (rather than being parallel as in CaRMS) In talking to an organization for IMGs in my home town the director told me that the residency is where most IMGs get stuck (after a year or more of study and $10-$20,000 in expenses a 40% chance is a pretty terrible gamble which is why my wife and I decided against the MLE path….maybe that was a mistake, but only time will tell….)
I hope all that helps someone!
Thank you for your support, and let me know if there is anything else I can add!
-David
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Thanks for the info on USMLE! Much appreciated. Reread the website again. The last session is this November 2018.
You are right about many IMGs coming here with high hopes and having them dashed after many years of applying and reapplying.
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A 40% chance in my opinion is still better than a 20-30% chance in Canada. You can increase her chances by trying both countries?
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Hi Dr Fomski,
I am south Sudanese , residing in Ethiopia second year in general surgery residency in Addis Ababa university., also I passed MRCS part 1 on 2017 .my wife she’s a Canadian resided in Calgary with my three kids . I would like to relocate to Canada , and I concern for challenge IMG face in Canada , and opportunity for residency . Most specialties are limited to particular specialties, my worry to spent time with out opportunity in Canada .
I will be happy if you advice about the nature before I drop from my residency then relocate to Canada and any other options .
Thank you for information
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Hi Gideon. You are right to be concerned about the challenges IMGs face. Less than 30% of all people who apply to residency are accepted, and only a few spots are available for General surgery. Most of them are for family doctors. To enter a program successfully, you need to have excellent scores in the MCC exams. You also need outstanding references and research publications. If you are willing to accept that you may not be able to practice medicine eventually, then you can make the step to come over. When you do, don’t give up trying to enter a residency program but in the interim, you can apply for a new job. For some of them, you might need to be retrained. For others you don’t.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/internationalphysicianintraining.wordpress.com/2017/11/04/12-career-alternatives-for-canadian-imgs/amp/
https://internationalphysicianintraining.wordpress.com/2018/03/19/20-more-career-alternatives-for-canadian-imgs-who-want-to-remain-in-the-medical-humanities-field/
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Hi Doc,
I am a member of the royal college of Ophthalmology (England) as well as a member of Ranzco (Australia and New Zealand) currently working as a comprehensive/general Ophthalmologist. I would like to migrate to Canada, BC specifically. What would be the path of least resistance for me to do this? I don’t mind moving to a province which is more flexible in terms of hoops one has to jump
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Hi Dr Beeman. Thank you for your comment. I apologize for not responding sooner.
Just to confirm, was your training in England, Australia or New Zealand? If yes, then you are eligible for the ‘Approved-jurisdiction route’ for international medical graduates. Your training will be assessed to see if you have met the Royal College requirements. If you are considered to be eligible, then you can sit for the Royal College exams. If you pass the exam, then you receive Royal College certification. Please visit this website for more details http://www.royalcollege.ca/rcsite/credentials-exams/exam-eligibility/assessment-imgs/approved-jurisdiction-route-international-medical-graduates-e.
If I am not mistaken, since you intend to practice in BC, you can apply to Health Match BC directly while you are working on your Royal College Certification. For more information on this, please follow these links:
https://www.healthmatchbc.org/Physicians/Practice-Ready-Assessment-(PRA-BC)
https://www.healthmatchbc.org/Register
If you have not trained in an approved jurisdiction, then you will need to apply to a province first. At this time, only Alberta and Manitoba assess IMGs specialists. You will need to get assessed in these provinces, work for about 3 years and then apply for the Royal College Certification.
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Hello doctor
Thank you for such a nice description about settlement if IMGs in Canada
My question is if I complete my 24 months of postgraduate traning in family medicine from a recognise hospital outside Canada , will I be able to get licence to practice in Alberta Canada without understanding any further examinations ? I am a bit confused about it ?.
Thanks in advance for your reply
Dr adeeba
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Hello Dr Adeeba, you will need to have passed your QE1, QE2 and IELTS before you apply. Depending on where you completed your training, you may be asked to do a further Practise readiness assessment exam and Therapeutic decision making exam. Thanks
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Hi
I am currently an Emergency room trained physician in Florida. I am an IMG graduate from Grenada. US citizen. Applying for Canadian Citizenship.
I have 4 years post training. 2 of which I am a clinical professor at a medical school. I have passed my board speciality exams.
Please tell me what you think my pathway will be to practice ER in Ontario . Will I need to take any exams? year of observation- if so will my salary be lower? Will i need to practice in a remote place?
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Hello Dr Paul. Thank you for your comment. I’m sorry for only just responding.
Just to confirm, you trained in Florida and you are a US-trained ER physician? If that is the case, then you are eligible to apply for independent practice in Ontario. You can apply to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario Registration Committee for registration. Please contact the college for further details and you can also click on these links for more details
Flowchart: https://www.cpso.on.ca/uploadedFiles/registration/usa.pdf
https://www.cpso.on.ca/Applicant-Information
https://www.cpso.on.ca/Applicant-Information/Applying-for-Registration
Thanks!
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Sorry I didn’t complete my response. Since you trained in the US and you are board specialized, I believe that when you get your practice license, you will not be asked to practice in a remote place, required to do any further exams, or given a lower salary.
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Hi!
I am a practicing doctor for almost 2 years in the Philippines as a General practitioner. Is the 3 years of practice prerequesite for PRA need to be under a training program? GPs here in the philippines can practice as a GP after acquiring a license. Do you need family medicine training of at least 2 to 3 years?
Thank you!
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Hi Dr. Paul, in many countries including yours, doctors can work as GPs after acquiring their license and Manitoba, BC and Saskatchewan currently recognise this. You can apply to these provinces even though you do not have formal training in Family Medicine.
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Hello , thank you for the opportunity this forum provides . I am a specialist in training in Obs and Gynae in Nigeria in my 4th year . Hoping to complete my training in October 2020 . I however do not have to be present in Nigeria to do that as I can always come to write the part 11 WACS , after submission of my dissertation and case books . My question is in 3 phases . My soon to be husband resides in Canada and wants me to move over . But surfing through the net I can see career opportunities are bleak for IMG .
1. What will be easiest path for me to practice Obs and Gynae in Canada
2. If I become retrained in the U.K. in Obs and Gynae will that make it easier for me to have job opportunities at a later time in Canada .
3 . Are there any exams I can start taking now from Nigeria before I finally move over to make the transition better .
Thank you for the good work you do
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Hello Dr Abieyuwa, I apologize for my extremely late response. I will do my best to respond to your questions as best as I can.
1. To be honest, there is really no ‘easiest’ path because they are both difficult routes. The two options are either to get your certificate assessed or redo your residency. For both of them, you’ll need to write the QE1, NAC and QE2 (for the specialist assessment). There are only a few spots for O & G for IMGs in Canada. The practice ready route seems a bit more hopeful because if your training is deemed eligible, you can be assessed and get into practice if successful.
2. If you get retrained in the UK, it will make it much more easier to get into practice here as the UK is considered an approved jurisdiction.
3. You can start with the QE1. At the moment, the closest place to you where it can be taken is Ghana. Please make sure you are well prepared before you take the exam.
I am grateful for the opportunity to help others out there. Good luck!
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Hello Dr. Fomski
I am doing my psychiatry residency in
India. Residency in our country is for 3yrs.
How should I proceed to get independent practice licence as a psychiatrist in British Columbia?
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Hi Dr Aman. Psychiatry residency here is 5 years so I’m not sure if they will consider it eligible for a practice readiness assessment for specialists. I have written a post about pathways for specialists https://internationalphysicianintraining.wordpress.com/2018/05/20/pathway-to-practising-medicine-in-canada-for-international-medical-graduates-imgs-specifically-for-specialists/
The first step involves passing the QE1 and confirming from the respective provincial health body if your specialist qualification is acceptable. You would want to start there first.
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I have completed my post graduation in Ophthalmology from India.I would like to know what all exams will I need to take to pursue my career in Canada as well
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Hi Dr Nirali, you will need to do the IELTS academic, QE1 and NAC (or QE2). Thanks!
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Hello Dr. Nirali
If you don’t mind please let me know if you have any leads regarding licensing procedure in Canada for specialists with residency from India.
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Thankyou for your reply doctor.
Am I eligible for practice eligibility route for specialists with 3yrs experience as specialist in India?
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Dr Singh, your eligibility is determined by the provincial health authority you’re applying to. What provinces do plan to apply to?
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I am planning for British Columbia and Manitoba.
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BC does not assess specialists but Manitoba does. You’ll need to contact them to them to find out if your Psychiatry specialty is accepted. Please read this for more info http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/health_sciences/medicine/education/imgp/specialistassessment.html
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Hi
I am a Canadian citizen. However, I’ve got my M.B.B.CH from Cairo University, Egypt in November 2009 and I finished my Master degree of cardiology from Cairo University in May 2017. I am working now as a cardiology specialist in Egypt. I have an experience for more than 7 years in the field of cardiology and catheterization.
Please tell me what do you think about the better pathway for me to practice medicine in Canada.
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Hello Dr Yassir, you have two options:
1. Get your cardiology certification assessed and then pass through the respective provincial Practice Readiness Assessment, or
2. Redo your residency here
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hi
I am a Indian licensure OBGYN with 5 years of experience, currently residing in US on H4 visa since 2years willing to relocate to Canada.
As you told i tried for BC,AB,SK,MB,ON,QC,NB,NS provinces for specialist route but for most i will have to pay for registration only but i don’t mind paying but wondering if is it worth paying so much.
I wanted to know if we have to verify credentials with physician app before anything.
I tried fellowship route but only Toronto accepts it but currently they don’t have vacancy up-to 2021 .
Do i need a PR before applying for anything.
Can you brief about the initial cost factor for specialist practice or if i have to do QE so that i can be prepared by arranging amount.
If i do a fellowship from UK/Ireland/Australia am i eligible to practice in Canada.
I also investigated about US Residency and fellowship route but its tough
I got suggestions for Canada so i started it
Please guide me with the best of your knowledge
Thanks
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Hello Dr Veena. I’ll do my best to answer your questions to the best of my ability. You will have to have your credentials verified with Physicians apply. You will also need to be a permanent resident order citizen. I’m not very sure I understand what you mean by initial costs but you will need to pay for registration and verification of your documents on Physicians Apply, then pay for QE1, and QE2 (or NAC) if you prefer. These should cost almost $ CAD 5000 altogether. You will also need to apply for specialist registration in the province you are applying to. That’s another cost and is province-dependent.
Eligibility is determined by the provincial health authority you are applying to, and as such, I cannot tell you if you will be eligible if you do a fellowship in the UK, Ireland or Scotland. Thanks!
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Dr. Veena, I have someone in a similar situation as you … please let me know if you met with any luck getting to Canada in OBGYN
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Hello Doctor Fomski,
I am Canadian citizen studying abroad.I completed MBBS and FCPS(General Surgery) from Pakistan basically I mean to say that I completed Residency in General Surgery in Pakistan.I also passed MRCS exam of UK.Kindly brief me about the routes that assess Specialist IMGS in Surgery or I have to redo this residency again.
Thanks
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Hello Dr Uzma, you have two options. The first is to redo your residency. There are only a few spots for General surgery for IMGs. So this is quite competitive.
The second option is to go through an eligibility process where your credentials and training are verified and assessed. If you are deemed eligible, you will be either be given a medical license or asked to do a further assessment by practising under supervision (also called the practice ready assessment). If you are successful, then you will be given a license to practice unsupervised.
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Thank you so much for your quick response.Can you provide me the link for second option?
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At the moment, only
Alberta and Manitoba provinces assess IMG specialists. These are the links that will guide you:
http://www.cpsa.ca/practice-readiness-assessments/#ppap
http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/health_sciences/medicine/education/imgp/specialistassessment.html
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You can also read this https://internationalphysicianintraining.wordpress.com/2018/05/20/pathway-to-practising-medicine-in-canada-for-international-medical-graduates-imgs-specifically-for-specialists/
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Hi,
What will be the situation for someone who did core medical training (2 years CMT) and has membership of Royal College of Physicians (MRCP) if they are planning to move to Alberta?
Kind Regards
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Hi Sunshine, I’m not very certain. What I do know is that Alberta only accepts fully qualified specialists. You can find out from the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta what your options are. Other provinces like BC, Saskatchewan and Manitoba might be more accepting if Alberta isn’t. They accept non-specialists for GP positions
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Hi, I am OBs and Gyn from India , and also MRCOG. Currently planing to apply as specialist in my branch(in Canada).What are the options for me, to do it?
Thx
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Hi Dr Josh, I sincerely apologise for the delayed response. The options are to redo your residency or go through the practice ready assessment. Thanks!
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Hello Dr Fomski,
I am an obstetrician and gynaecologist working here in India with ten years of experience. I recently completed my MRCOG as an overseas candidate.
What are the requirements to relocate to Canada and practice as an OBGYN doctor there? Could you please guide me??
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Hello Dr Bhawana, you will need to apply to Alberta or Manitoba and see if you qualify. You will also need to have passed the MCCQE1 and NAC exams
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Dr Govindarajan Sarala from Chennai India
Hi I am 58 years old I am Neurophysician having 15 years experience after my Neuro residency in my country i.e Madras Medical college Chennai More over my son is a permanent resident of canada what is the opportunity and ways for me to practice can u guide me
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Hello Dr Sarala, I apologise for my very delayed response. Alberta and Manitoba have opportunities for trained specialists. Please follow the links I listed in this post for further information.
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Hello Dr Fomski
So kind of you to help the physicians through your forum. I am 2nd year resident in Pathology from India. I have Canadian PR too. Since i plan to move to Canada after completing the 3 year residency, which is the most feasible pathway to practice as a pathologist in Canada preferably in BC,ON or AB?
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Hi Dr Swati thank you for your comment. I apologise for the delay. I can’t really say what the most feasible pathway is but you do have two options to practice as a pathologist but only in AB. BC only takes GPs to the best of my knowledge and ON doesn’t take specialists who are not from approved-jurisdictions.
You can do all the required MCC exams and apply for practice ready assessment. Or you can do residency all over again.
Another alternative is to do a programme as a pathology assistant https://www.schulich.uwo.ca/pathol/gps/mclsc_pathologists_assistant/program_overview/what_is.html
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Hello Doctor Fomski,
My Sister’s Husband and His Family will be migrating to Canada as Permanent Residents in December 2019. Her Husband is a medical Doctor (From A Nigerian Univerity) with 9 years of work experience as a Medical Doctor. Out of the 9 years, he has specialized for 7 years as an Anaesthesian and now is a Consultant of Anaesthetics.
Now, in migrating to Canada, we will like to know specifically what needs to be done to be able to practice in the province of Manitoba as a specialist in this area.
Most of the explanations online are really complicated and it looks like the pathway/route differ for everyone (on a case by case basis).
We look forward to getting your advice on this.
Thank you for the wonderful post
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I apologise for my very delayed response. If you still have questions, please send me an email at internationalphysiciantraining@gmail.com. Thanks!!
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Hi,
Thanks a lot! Doctor Fomski for this exposition. You’ve been super helpful.
I live and work in the England.
I am currently working on getting trained in internal medicine and sub specialize in Cardiology.
Afterwards, l’d like to move to Canada.
I have seen the steps you’ve outlined above. However, l’d like to know the chances of getting a job after scaling through these hurdles.
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I believe they should be quite good considering you trained in the UK. I apologise for the delayed response. Thanks !
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Hi Dr. Fomski,
I am A. Professor of Otolaryngology in Egypt with more than 15y of practice. I have passed MCEE with a very high score but being unaware of the practice ready assessment exam, I thought that the only way to work in Canada would to redo residency which seemed impossible to be in otolaryngology. Therefore, I gave up and didn’t do the MCCQ1 &2 and returned back to my home country. Recently I did the MRCS part I and DOHNS exams of UK. I wished if I had came across your post several years ago, since my PR has expired nearly 1 year ago (but still I can try to renew it or apply again). I have two questions:
Q1. I have looked at the links that you have mentioned in Alberta and Mannitoba. They don’t to seem to be clear and I am not sure if they do provide practice ready assessment in Otolaryngology. Do they provide practice ready assessment in Otolaryngology?
Q2. If I move to UK and work there for a few years, would recognition of my credentials in UK facilitate my work in Canada as an Otolaryngologist?? In what way?? What would be the route??
Thank you very much for your help!!
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Hi Dr Remon, I apologise for my very late resonse. You are right that the info is not very clear in those links. They do not state the specific specialties that are assessed so I honestly don’t know if they provide PRA in otolaryngology.
Secondly, if you were to move to the UK and complete a training program there with a certificate of completion of training (CCT), I think it would facilitate your work as an otolaryngologist in Canada. You would apply to the Royal College here . If you don’t get a CCT, then I think you might have to still do the PRA route. You might want to contact the Royal College for clarification. Thanks!
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I am anaesthetist with postgraduate medical fellowship obtained in Nigeria 15 years ago and practising in Nigeria.I am planning to relocate to Canada, can you advise on how to be integrated into the Canadian Medical practice?
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Hi, I’m so sorry for the delayed respdne. Please send an email to internationalphysiciantraining@gmail.com if you still have unanswered questions. I’ll let you know how we can speak on the phone. Thanks
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Hi Dr.Fomski,
Thank you for helping us out with your valuable advise. Am a canadian PR holder and have done my mbbs in India followed by DGO (Diploma in obstetrics and gynaecology 2 years) and have my MRCOG degree as well. Am I eligible for PRA in Manitoba? What is the best course of action in my case?
Thank you for your time and efforts!
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Hi REEN, I apologize for not responding sooner. I really can’t tell what the best course of action is regarding your case but you can reach out to them and see what they say.
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Hello Dr Fomski
I am an internal medicine (3years) specialist from India with alomst two years of current experience in practice, residing in BC (Permanent Resident). I have passed my MCCQE1 and IELTS.
I have heard about practice ready assesement program, willing to pursue but when I read the information they have mentioned some sponsorships /job offers. I was wondering is the process doable??
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Hi Anshu, I apologise for the delayed response. You are right about the sponsorship. It has been a roadblock for many IMGs who have gone through the practice ready assessment. I can’t really say if it’s doable but you can try all the same and see what happens. You might be one of the fortunate ones.
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Hello Dr Fomski
Greetings.
I am doing my residency in medical oncology in India. I would like your advice regarding process into Canadian medical system as an oncologist, as am planning to shift to Canada.
Am i also eligible for fellowships in medical oncology?
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I’m not sure about that, you might be eligible. Please contact the programs you are interested in. Thanks!
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Hi Dr Fomski,
I hope you are doing well! I am a medical student in London, UK. My plan is to complete my residency in the UK and move to Canada. I was wondering, if I trained to become a GP in the UK, I will have the MRCGP (Member of the Royal College of General Practitioners). I have heard that having the MRCGP will automatically make me eligible for CFPC without college examinations, however I would have to do MCCQE I and II.
I was wondering, would the same apply if I decided to become a physician specialist/surgeon in the UK and complete my training from there? I would receive MRCP (Member of the Royal College of Physicians) or MRCS (Member of the Royal College of Surgeons) in the UK (depending on whether I become a physician specialist or surgeon). Would this be equivalent to having RCPSC certification or would I still have to sit the College exams in Canada?
Also, is residency training for all specialities in the UK recognised by Canada or are a few specialities not? In particular, I’m currently interested in Ophthalmology, Dermatology and Gastroenterology. Does Canada recognise UK residency training in these 3 specialities? I have had a look on the RCPSC website for the specialities recognised by Canada under the Approved Jurisdiction section for IMGs but am having a hard time figuring out if these, and other specialities, are recognised by Canada if done from the UK. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Final question, if I pass MCCQE I and II do I have to sit College examinations or will I have to sit MCCQE and College Exams for full license in Canada? Can I sit either MCCQEs or College exams without having to do the other or would I have to sit both?
I appreciate the fact that you must be extremely busy and that this is a very long message, but I have been trying to find answers to these questions for months now, so any help would be greatly appreciated!
Kind regards.
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Hello Shah, I am so so sorry for not responding sooner. I have been tied up with a few things.
1. Yes you are right that having the MRCGP will make you eligible for the CFPC.
2. If you became a specialist in the UK, you would have to sit for the College exams in Canada.
3. The specialties you enquired about are accepted: The Royal College of Ophthalmologists (UK), Dermatology and Gastroenterology from The Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh,
The Royal College of Physicians of London,
and The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow
4. You will have to sit for the College exams whether or not you pass the QE I and II. You will also need to do the QE1 and II. Thanks!
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Hi Dr Fomski, thank you for your response!
I am currently studying medicine in the UK. If I complete a residency programme in the US and become board certified, will I need to sit the Royal College exams in order to be eligible to practice in Canada?
Also, would I be exempt from MCCQE1 & 2?
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Hello Shah, I think I already responded by email but if I haven’t, please email if you still need answers. Best wishes
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Hi I’m a retinal surgeon from India. I’ve completed my ophthalmology residency and then done 2 years of vitreo retinal fellowship all in India. I’ve passed my step 1 USMLE . I read the previous posts and it seems like I need to apply to Manitoba or Alberta. Do I need to write QE1 to go about specialist PRA in these two provinces?. Also I read something about subspecialty PRA. Does vitreoretinal come under this subspecialty route?
Thank you , looking forward
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Good day Dr Adi, yes to the best of my knowledge, you would need to write the QE1 if you want to practise in Canada. But please verify with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Manitoba and Alberta respectively. Thanks!!
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Hello ,Dr.Fomski , I hope you well and safe and thank you for your nice clarification. Am working Internal medicine Registrar in Ireland for 4 years and I want to apply for approve jurisdiction pathway ,but am royal college of physicians and surgeons they ask from certificate of completion of training or just assessment of my Ireland experience because all no Irish docs working non training jobs but they have same training with Irish SPR ,Thanks.
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Hello Dr Ahmed. Thanks for getting in touch. Yes I know that non-training jobs have the same training as Irish SPR but from what I know, they usually ask for a certificate of completion but please don’t take my word for it. Please get in touch with the Royal College and they will guide you accordingly. When you do get a response, please let me know what they say. I would highly appreciate it. Thanks!
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Hello Dr Fomski,
I feel blessed coming across your very informative blog and I’m very impressed by your good heart and availability in assisting IMGs. May God bless you in your own journey!
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Amen. I’m glad I could be of assistance !
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Hi, can I please inbox you with my query. Thanks
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Yes, of course!
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Hello Dr Fomski, I have dropped you an email.
Thanks
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I just responded. I hope it’s a little helpful 😊
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Thank you so much, it was very insightful.
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You’re most welcome
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Hi Dr Fomski, I did my postgraduate training in ophthalmology from Pakistan. This was a 4 year program with more than 36 months in the same field and the rest, a few rotations in allied fields of medicine.
My recent practice is of 8 months as a specialist/senior registrar in Saudi Arabia.
As I’m not from an approved jurisdiction, can I go for PRA?does mccqe1 apply? Do I need a PR to sit this exam? What path should I take to remain in practice in Canada?
Thanks and appreciate your efforts to help us all!
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HI Munazza, I’m going through comments I missed but believe I responded to you by email? Best wishes
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Hello doctor
I am doing my post graduation in radiology in India…..how can I move to Canada as a specialist and what all exams I need to take to practice in Canada as a specialist….
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Hell Raman, I’m sorry I’m only just responding to this. I missed this unfortunately. Please email at interphysiciantraining@gmail.com if you still need some answers.
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Hi Dr. Fomski,
I am a postgraduate specialist in pathology. I have done all my education from India. And have been a practicing pathologist for more than 3 years now.
I want to move to canada .which is the best possible way for me to get license and practice my specialty in canada?
Please guide me.
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I’m not sure how else how I can help besides what I’ve written in this post. Can you kindly contact the Royal College for further questions?
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Hello,
Thank you very much for all the work and information you put into this blog. Very useful!
I graduated in medical science at the Erasmus MC Rotterdam in the Netherlands (top 10 European Medical school) and I am finishing my residency in ophthalmology ( a total of 6 years postgraduate experience) . Although not an approved Jurisdiction, is there any chance that through individual assessment I would be allowed to take the RCPSC exam of ophthalomogy?
Thanks!
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Hello Ben, I’m sorry I’m only just responding to this. I missed this unfortunately. Please email at interphysiciantraining@gmail.com if you still need some answers.
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Hello Dr. Fomski, not sure if you are still on this board, but recently as of January 21, 2021, royal college has opened the PER and PRA routes to ALL jurisdictions, I think this is great news. I am an OBGYN from Mexico, I have a PR in Canada, Ontario, I am looking to practice again here. I have already contacted and researched the residency route which will take at least 7 years to complete most likely with the exams and residency. Do you recommend any other pathways, or is the practice ready assessment and Practice eligibility routes the only other ways? thanks for your time.
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Hello Karla, I’m sorry I’m only just responding to this. I missed this unfortunately. Please email at interphysiciantraining@gmail.com if you still need some answers.
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Hi I am trained specialist from UK in Endocrinology and metabolism. I am dually accredited in general internal medicine and Endocrinology. I wonder can I only take sub-speciality fellowship exam or I have to take both part to practice in Canada?
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Hi Dr DonKash, I’m not very about how to answer that. It might be best to contact the Royal College regarding that. Many thanks
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Hi Dr Fomski,
I just finished my residency training in Obstetrics and gynecology in Nigeria.
What is the possibility of practicing in Manitoba or Alberta.
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Hi, I’m unsure about the possibility and this will be based on if the respective Colleges consider that your training is eligible. Kindly contact them. Many thanks
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Thanks Dr Fomski, if one has done residency in Internal medicine from USA, does it mean the person will write Royal college exam or will the person be exempted from the exam. Do you still have to write QE1 and QE2?
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To the best of my knowledge, you’ll not need to do any further exams. I think you need to contact the Royal College for confirmation. Many thanks!
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Dear Dr. Fomski,
As an orthopedic surgeon trained in an approved jurisdiction(South Africa) i wish to practice in Canada.
1.Can i apply to practice in a province straight away or i need to first get certification from royal college?
2.can you briefly tell me the steps to follow to start working as a surgeon?
3. Are there any requirement i should know?
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Hello Dr Ansah, thank you for your comment.
1. I think this step varies between provinces. It’s not very clear for all the provinces but I think you will need to apply to your intended province first and if approved, then work towards getting certification from the Royal College. For some, it will be the other way around. The best way to be sure is to contact the College of physicians and surgeons of the province you intend to practice in.
2/3. The steps would be making sure you meet the eligibility criteria for the province(s) you intend to work in i.e passing the MCCQE1, having currency of practice, IELTS (probably not required for you) and then applying to the province(s) for a review of your qualifications. If your qualifications are accepted, then depending on the province you will put on a register and start practising. Some might require that you have a period of practice assessment first.
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Is there any program where fresly graduated FM specialist US can apply to…?
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Hi Andy, there is no specific program that freshly graduated FM specialists that graduated from the US can apply to. Simply apply to the provincial college of physicians and surgeons you intend to work in and they will assess you and grant you a license to practice if you meet all the criteria. Thanks
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Thanks for your Response Dr
But will they not ask for some form of independent practice in order to grant license for independent practice..??
Regards
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No they won’t. This is a copied statement from the CPSA website “within the last 3 years, you need to have practised independently or been a part of a continuous postgraduate training program for a minimum of 1 year in the discipline you want to enter in Alberta.” within the last 3 years, you need to have practised independently or been a part of a continuous postgraduate training program for a minimum of 1 year in the discipline you want to enter in Alberta“
https://cpsa.ca/physicians/registration/apply-for-registration/apply-for-independent-practice/
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You need to check the colleges of physicians and surgeons in your intended province for confirmation but I think that’s the norm. Some provinces (the ones I mentioned in this post) don’t take you unless you are licensed in another province
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